the next big day is august 15th or 16th when a big interest payment comes due. so pat toomey is saying he wants to prioritize interest payments on our bonds, then social security and sort of go in that direction. there are a lot of people who said the credit agencies have said this, ben bernanke has said this, default is default. if you are going to get a downgrade just because you pay your bondholders doesn't mean you won't get a downgrade. the downgrade could affect interest rates. it may be the same effect in the interesting. interesting, suzanne. i don't know whether pat toomey, what he's suggesting can have legal authority. i know that treasury is prioritizing. on august 3rd, if they don't have the money to pay all the bills, they have to make decisions as to which bills they're paying. >> is it possible to avert a financial crisis? maybe this is a big unknown, if they decide we're going to pay for this first or is it still going to be in a default situation? >> remember, there's is a technical part of this. if you don't pay by this day, they report you to